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See also
Continuous Environmental Tracking (CET) hypothesis
Information, genetic, new or increased
Mutation rates / molecular clock
Post-Flood animal migration - Focuses on post-Flood migration/distribution but not on baraminology or rapid speciation within 'kinds' (which are dealt with below).
Stoeckler and Thaler's research
Resources
Resources
General
General
Resources dealing generally with 'kinds' and 'post-Flood' hyperrapid speciation proposed by some creationists.
Claim CB801: Science cannot define "species."
Claim CB805: Evolution predicts a continuum of organisms, not discrete kinds
Claim CB901.1: Range of variation is limited within kinds
Claim CB901.2: No new phyla, classes, or orders have appeared
Claim CB910: No new species have been observed
Claim CB910.1: Fruit fly experiments produce only fruit flies
Claim CB910.2: Peppered moths remained the same species
Claim CH350: Organisms come in discrete kinds
Brief responses in the Index to Creationist Claims in the TalkOrigins Archive.
Defining "Kinds" -- Do Creationists Apply a Double Standard?
Article by Frank T Awbrey in Creation/Evolution Journal on the website of the National Center for Science Education. References appear to be missing from this version but appear in the PDF format of this issue.
Video by Jackson Wheat. 'Dinosaurs create problems for the Noachian story.'
Videos by Jackson Wheat.
Videos in the How Creationism Taught Me Real Science series.
19 What part of creation was still solely the domain of God?
Part 19 of Stephen Godfrey's story about coming to the realization that the YEC position he had been taught was wrong. Here he talks about his thoughts when considering the evolutionary evidence in the fossil record and considering whether it could have been that certain amounts of variations were permitted within 'kinds'.
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog.
Testing The Creationist’s Hyper-evolution Orchard: Canines, Felines and Elephants
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog.
How Similar is Similar? Baramins, Species, and the Identification of Common Ancestors
Testing YEC Hyper-Evolution from Common Ancestors: Comparisons of mtDNA Genome Diversity in Mammals
Pair of posts by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog.
Dodging Darwin: How Ken Ham’s Ark Encounter is Slowly Embracing Evolution
Post by David MacMillan on Joel Duff's Naturalis Historia blog. Also available on the Panda's Thumb blog. MacMillan looks at the Ark Encounter's representation of speciation within 'kinds' and their slippery slope of having to accept more and more common descent.
What is a “Kind”? Fox News Article Quoted by AiG Speakers Contradicts their own Definition
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog. 'Ken Ham and Bryan Osborne don't seem to realize when they read quotes that contradict views they stated just moments before.'
Is there evolution between kinds?
Post by Adam Benton on his Filthy Monkey Men blog.
Ark Encounter Common Ancestors: The Increasing Inclusiveness of Biblical Kinds
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog. Duff takes a quick look at the history of how young-Earth creationists have been gradually broadening the definition of a 'kind' over the past fifty years and asks how inclusive a 'kind' may become in the future.
Are Differences more than Skin Deep? Ken Ham’s Confusing Message about Biological Variation
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog. 'Ken Ham is always confused about the difference between morphological differences between artificially selected organisms and amount of divergence of species in the wild.'
Post by Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog. 'One huge problem for Dr. Jeanson’s hypothesis that the original kinds were endowed with massive variation (heterozygosity) in the original creation is the problem of Noah’s flood which should have been a massive genetic bottleneck and thus destroying the variation needed for post-flood hyper-evolution to even have a chance of working.'
Ken Ham’s Darwinism: On The Origin of Species by Means of Hyper-Evolution Following Noah’s Flood
Post by Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog, looking at how Ken Ham and Answers in Genesis are changing the landscape of young-Earth creationists’ approach to biological diversity.
Is Ken Ham’s Rapid Post-Flood Diversification Really Evolution?
Post by Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog, looking even more closely at the words of Answers in Genesis and Ken Ham and asking: 'Is what they are saying different from standard evolutionary theory or is it something similar but cloaked in different terminology?'
Young-Earth Evolutionists? Talking about Hyper-speciation and Theological Implications
Video presentation by Joel Duff and Gregg Davidson on Duff's Naturalis Historia blog.
Paper by R. Joel Duff, Thomas R. Beatman, and David S. MacMillan III in the journal Evolution: Education and Outreach. Deals with creationist manipulation and misuse of science and includes a section on creationist 'hyperrapid speciation' models.
The Ark Encounter’s Hyper-evolutionary Model Underestimates Speciation Rates
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog. 'More than half of all the kinds of land animals that Noah preserved on the ark have already gone extinct according to creationists. Do they deal with massive extinction rates in their estimation of speciation?'
Creationists use miracles to explain why their predictions fail
Post by Adam Benton on his Filthy Monkey Men blog. 'Creationists made some predictions about how many mutations could have happened in the last 6,000 years. They don’t match up with the actual number of mutations. This disconnect is explained away with miracles.'
Post by Joel Edmund Anderson on his Resurrecting Orthodoxy blog. Part 2, linked to here, discusses the 'science' of Jeanson and Lisle's paper. Part 1 is about the wording of the paper and how Anderson feels it is worded deliberately confusingly to obfuscate the meaning.
On Diversity - A Reply to Answers in Genesis
Post on the Smilodon's Retreat blog. Tone is harsh/disrespectful, but contains important information about a creationist paper on this topic.
A Primer on Young-Earth Views of Speciation, Mutations and Natural Selection
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog.
Ken Ham’s Biblical Evolution? I Have a Book That Says Otherwise
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog. 'In the Ken Ham/Bill Nye debate, Ken Ham said he had a book that proved his case regarding the age of the Earth. However that same book provides ample evidence that his hyper-speciation model is without merit.'
Particular 'kinds'
Particular 'kinds'
Resources looking at or focusing mainly on particular 'kinds' and hyperrapid speciation within them.
Basic Created Kinds and the Fossil Record of Perissodactyls
Article by James S. Monroe in the journal Creation/Evolution on the website of the National Center for Science Education. The bibliography is missing from this version but is available in the PDF format of the issue in which this article appears.
Post by Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog. 'Combining the observation that no whales fossils exist in Flood rocks and the evidence that ancient whales had more land animal features some YECs are willing to consider that Noah had a walking land animal on the ark that then evolved into the present day whales.'
Yet another creationist explanation for Homo naledi
Creationist “debate” finally breaks out
Two posts about the application of baraminology to Homo naledi by Adam Benton on his Filthy Monkey Men blog.
Bones of Contention: How Will Creationists Respond To A Huge New Hominid Fossil Find?
Bones of Contention III: ICR Claims Homo naledi Fossils are of an “Imaginary Creature”
Bones of Contention IV: A YEC Homo naledi Fossil Status Scorecard
Bones of Contention V: Dr. Wood Weighs in on the Homo naledi Mystery
Bones of Contention VI: Young-Earth Creationists’ Continued Confusion over Homo naledi Fossils
Series of posts by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog. Looks at how creationists have reacted to the Homo naledi find in the Dinaledi chamber of the Rising Star Cave in South Africa, including how they have ignored very important aspects of the scientific literature on the find and the different organizations and individuals have come to very different conclusions from each other about which 'kind' these fossils represent.
Tricksy Hominin Fossils: Hobbitses are Human but Homo naledi is not
Post by Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog.
Creationists admit humans and Australopithecus are related
Post by Adam Benton on his Filthy Monkey Men blog about a baraminological study showing that Australopithecus sediba should be considered part of the human 'kind' and how other creationists have responded.
Chimps, Orangutans and Gorillas Evolved from a Common Ancestor on Noah’s Ark
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog. 'A new exhibit at the Creation Museum purports to show how chimps orangutans and gorillas all are descendants of a common ancestor on Noah’s Ark. An example of creationist[s]’ move toward a hyperevolutionary model of origins.'
Glyptodonts, Armadillos and Ken Ham’s Hyper-Speciation Model
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog.
What is a Horse? A Horse is a Horse, Unless of Course it isn’t a Horse
When is a Horse a Horse? The Species Definition Problem
In Search of the Equine Common Ancestor: Horse Series Part III
Horsing Around with Genetic Sorting: Horse Series Part IV
Horses in the Bible Contradict Ken Ham’s Hyper-evolution Narrative
Ancient Genomes Reveal Horses have been Horses for a Long Time
Series of posts about the horse 'kind' by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog.
Are Ruminants Derived from a Common Ancestor? Ruminating on the Meaning of Noahic “Kinds”
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog. 'Are giraffes, gazelles, antelope and pronghorn all derived from a common ancestor? Creation scientists aren’t sure but some have suggested it might be possible. So just how inclusive can a kind be? The definition seems to expand every time a creationist writes about it.'
Young-Earth Creationism Leads the Short-Necked Okapi to Identify as a Giraffe
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog about creationist classification of the giraffe, which also touches on creationist claims about their supposed 'irreducible complexity'.
Mixed Messages: Confusion over the Origin of Sea Otters at Answers in Genesis
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog.
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog. How could so many pterosaur species survive the Flood but leave no post-Flood record? What does massive extinction mean to creationists?
Ken Ham on Dinosaur Extinction, De-extinction, DNA, and Dino-Bird Distinctions
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog.
Invoking Super-Speed Evolution: The YEC Post-Flood Big Bang of Bird Speciation
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog. 'How do YECs fit 10,300 bird species onto the Ark? They squeeze them into just 200 "kinds" which then rapidly evolved into the amazing diversity of birds we have today.'
Origins and Extinctions: A Lesson from the Penguins of the Northern Hemisphere
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog.
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog. 'Sloths, anteaters and armadillos are only known from the New World. How did they get there from the Ark and how is this a challenge for the speciation model of YECs?'
Kind of Confusing – Young-earth Creationist’ Classification of the Bombardier Beetle
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog about creationist classification of bombardier beetles, which also touches on creationist claims about their supposed 'irreducible complexity'.
Consider the Lilies? Ken Ham’s Confusion over Biological Classification
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog.
Cactus Biogeography: A Prickly (Pear) Problem for Young Life Creationism
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog. Plants present additional problems to the Flood narrative but are often overlooked.
Canine Transmissible Tumors: Seeking Immortality By Becoming a Parasite
Post by biologist Joel Duff on his Naturalis Historia blog.
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